Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Hogan (American football)

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:58, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Mark Hogan (American football)

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Low-level college football player whose only claim to fame is apparently being "the first scholarship player" to enroll at Georgia State. In my opinion, this alone does not merit notability per WP:ATHLETE. On a sidenote: the article's creator Weshogan41 could be in a conflict-of-interest. bender235 (talk) 23:10, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

• Delete Fails Wikipedia:NCOLLATH#College_athletes. Sulfurboy (talk) 10:39, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
• Keep Several aspects of his career are notable and have been covered substantially in reliable independent sources. Candleabracadabra (talk) 13:39, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

What "several" aspects? I mean other than him being the first of many scholarship athletes at some university. --bender235 (talk) 16:38, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

He has had several firsts at two universities and has been covered substantially in reliable independent sources. He's not the most notable athlete in history, but he seems to me to be worth including. Candleabracadabra (talk) 16:42, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

You should explain what 'several firsts' you're talking about and how that makes him notable, because I see nothing other than him being the first scholarship athlete (which doesn't seem that significant when you consider they didn't even have a sports program till a couple years ago). Sulfurboy (talk) 17:22, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

It's covered in the article and the cited Orange article. Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:26, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

• Delete He's not notable.--Yankees10 23:52, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 01:17, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 01:17, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

• Keep clearly passes WP:GNG just based on feature article refernces provided in the article already.--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:51, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
• Weak delete. I'm not sure. Being the first scholarship athlete at a new FBS program is certainly interesting, but someone had to be. Any coverage which that generated might well qualify under WP:ONEEVENT. Ditto scoring UNC-Charlotte's first TD; someone was going to do so. His high school career isn't notable. His on-field performance at Georgia State and UNC-Charlotte isn't notable and whatever coverage the has been is routine. If he successfully turns pro then that's a different matter; fair or not playing in the NFL is the standard by which a college career is judged. Mackensen (talk) 12:38, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
  • A college football season is not "one event"--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:28, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
• Delete Fails WP:NGRIDIRON and WP:NCOLLATH.204.126.132.231 (talk) 18:40, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:20, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

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