Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Travis Michael Garland
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. The most recent Keep comment summarizes the strongest arguable points quite well. -- Cirt (talk) 12:29, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I don't think Travis Garland passes the notability criteria for muscians, or for people in general. The information here is not encylopedic and it is not written appropriately. Additionally I've made attempts to source the information and clean up the article but I still don't think its salvageable. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 00:56, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 00:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- What are you talking about? He was a guest performer on American Idol for crying out loud. Something that only some celebrities have the privilege to do. His debut if you ask me was on American Idol. And for the article itself, it can be rewritten and cleaned up. 75.62.135.111 (talk) 03:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Being a guest performer itself doesn't mean a whole lot, but fortunately for this heartthrob the media took note: EW, CBS, and Billboard. That should be enough. As for rewriting the article, IP, you didn't have to wait for me. Drmies (talk) 17:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, only big named celebrities perform on AI. Considering Garland was one of the few non-celebrities, it makes him notable enough to stand out from past performers. CloudKade11 (talk) 00:36, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- One performance on a prime-time TV show is not enough for notability. He doesn't have charting singles or a charting album. Much of the information on his page is WP:OR. There isnt even confirmed information when he is making his second release or album release. Was the performance critically appraised? no.... did it cause the song to chart? (i don't think so... i might wrong though). -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 01:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Have you looked at the article since I went over it? There is no OR there anymore. True, there is no date for an album release, but he's under contract, and that's something. The performance was indeed praised: CBS News called it "show-stopping." Well, New York Daily News blasted his "incredibly weak performance"--you can't win 'em all, but he was covered in a notable source. Drmies (talk) 03:34, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes I have. I looked just before I made my comments. Having a record contract does not make you notable. Lots of people have record contracts and are yet to release a single/album. The thing is if this was the AfD for the article of his first single, "Believe" there's no way that the coverage you've mentioned would satisfy the notability criteria for independent song articles. Thus trying to use coverage of one performance of a song released to iTunes (purchase alone doesn't constitute a single release) and didn't chart certainly doesn't make this article notable. Travis Garland as a performer cannot inherit notability from one live performance even though it was on one of America's biggest stages (American Idol) because at the end of the day it hasn't made him notable as an artist. It's done little to raise his profile beyond the performance. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 02:47, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Have you looked at the article since I went over it? There is no OR there anymore. True, there is no date for an album release, but he's under contract, and that's something. The performance was indeed praised: CBS News called it "show-stopping." Well, New York Daily News blasted his "incredibly weak performance"--you can't win 'em all, but he was covered in a notable source. Drmies (talk) 03:34, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- One performance on a prime-time TV show is not enough for notability. He doesn't have charting singles or a charting album. Much of the information on his page is WP:OR. There isnt even confirmed information when he is making his second release or album release. Was the performance critically appraised? no.... did it cause the song to chart? (i don't think so... i might wrong though). -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 01:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - not notable — Preceding unsigned comment added by Webhat (talk • contribs)
- I shouldn't, but...do you have a reason? Drmies (talk) 05:43, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:52, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (t) (c) 00:15, 22 November 2010 (UTC) (2nd relist rationale: BLP)[reply]
- Keep Three reliable sources have produced articles/interviews with him as the main subject and the article content is verifiable. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 10:28, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.